Is it possible to work within a broken system to fix it, or does participating in it just make you another part of the problem?
And a follow-up: when every option is compromised, what do we actually owe the people around us? Is showing up and doing something small enough? Or is that just a comfortable excuse for not burning it all down?
This isn't about politics in the abstract. It's more of an individual question. When you know the game is rigged and you still have to live in it, what does a decent person actually do?
And when we do those small good things inside a system we know is rotten, are we healing it, or just cutting the leaves of a tree that needs to come down?
You exist, maybe in unliveable circumstances you form groups and form system within the system it all depends on how functionable the remains of that broken system is. If there aren't any remains for the people, someone or you rally all you find to build something anew or rebuild it to a functional state. The individual is as important as the group if theres no decent person trying to be good, to show up there will be no system that can be repaired.
There always needs to be a start of goodwill no matter how small it has its effect.
What im saying is we can't function without the good no matter how small, we have within all of us.
A broken system is best fixed with a pincer approach from within and without. You need to both change the internal culture and practices and excercise influence from beyond the confines of the system.
And when the game is rigged beyond all fixing (it never is), even then it is a moral person’s duty to act in benefit of their community. Regardless of the tree’s rot, patches of flowers are patches of flowers, and ought be appreciated.
I think an internal approach is useless. Humans are not the same. Everyone does their own thing, despite whatever the majority culture is. Even though humans are all unique, this doesn’t actually result in random, unpredictable behavior.
Rather it’s the opposite. There are so many of us that our most common instincts prevail in the face of sheer numbers. If you don’t understand what I mean, then think about it like this: when you flip a coin, the side the lands face up is random, right? Even though it’s a 50/50 chance, you’ll never be able to tell with certainty what the outcome is going to be. But, if you flip the same coin many times, a pattern emerges - the 50% odds that we’re familiar with. It’s an intrinsic property contained within the very nature of a coin flip. Humans are the same way.
We can overcome our natural instincts, and we can even be virtuous and beautiful beings, transcending our base desires, but these are exceptions. Eight billion is an incomprehensibly large number. It doesn’t matter if 10 million humans are able to adhere to a morally righteous culture. The rest will ruin it by breaking the contract, a contract that only works if everyone follows it, a contract that is simply impossible to enforce on that scale.
It doesn’t even have to be true that these remaining people are “evil” or “bad” or “tainted” or “selfish” or whatever label you want to paint them as. Everyone is different, and in fact we may even think of many of these people as “good”, but a vast number of people will possess some level of base desire, and a lot will act on it in some way. These little things do not mean much on their own, but in the face of billions of people it is impossible for anything to completely oppose it.
Just as there are countless molecules in a wave all working together to tirelessly shave the cliff’s face away, so does the random human animalistic instinct overpower everything. It is futile to fight it in hopes of changing the human race for the better. Against magnitude, all crumbles.
The only way to make real change is to work with human tendencies than against them. This is why currency works. Money leverages our desires to own resources, at the cost of the downtrodden and unlucky. It is a creation arisen from our greatest evils, but one of our most beneficial.
Greed. Pride. Lust. Envy. Gluttony. Wrath. Sloth.
These are not only sins to be scorned. They are sins we must acknowledge and accept as an irrefutable part of mankind as a whole and something that we may never truly rid of ourselves from, lest we become a different species. No, instead we must utilize these for ourselves with systems that punish excessive behavior but satisfy these dark desires. Economy hurts those who spend too much, and it hurts those that spend too little, who waste their rewards without ever being able to use them. In this manner, we should come up with other methods for our collective innate desires, and after we will be able to gain from our flaws rather than turn our noses up at them.
I tried to explain it 2 times already and got censored
basically, in the game Disco Elysium you can find a chair, sit in this chair on the right conditions and you have to heal yourself in any way or you will away.
I'm fine, I think everyone had their heart broken at some point at their lifes. I was thinking about that.
When people say things like heavy heart or heart in pain and you first think is just a way of express yourself, but then it happens to you and you realize it's a physical thing all along. I think the heart is constantly reminding us when something is wrong.
I've seen idiots believe in such lies that they have no words but that which has been said before them. I don't wish for my older sis to be one but she's been out the lectures and classes that she believes in she thinks she is. I hope for your sky to be clear and the sun to be cool that you find your path even if iit's the red road. I miss you sis
Low key, I don’t think this is true. I’d say it’s easier to love someone else if you think less of yourself (think of a yandere situation). Instead, when you love yourself, you can love others on a deeper level.
So I saw a Reddit post last week about Ursula K legion’s “the ones who walk away from Omelas” and it fucking sucked (the Reddit comments). If you’ve read the story before, what’s your take on it?
Imma be real, I am attempting, badly, to convert you all to the love of god. Figured I might as well spread love to those who get hate, help those who need it, idk. But for real, where are you at/ what do you think about religion? As an idea, as a proof of concept, whatever. Just curiosity. And wanting to know how much effort I will need for this.
Feel free to ignore my dips*** crusade and just answer it as a philosophical question. But He loves you, and I think you are some of the best to learn that. He was a god who broke bread with tax collectors and sinners. He came for those that need the help but don't want it. Just trying to, in a way I think I can do, spread love.
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The happiness of your life depends on quality of your thoughts
Is it possible to work within a broken system to fix it, or does participating in it just make you another part of the problem?
You exist, maybe in unliveable circumstances you form groups and form system within the system it all depends on how functionable the remains of that broken system is. If there aren't any remains for the people, someone or you rally all you find to build something anew or rebuild it to a functional state. The individual is as important as the group if theres no decent person trying to be good, to show up there will be no system that can be repaired.
There always needs to be a start of goodwill no matter how small it has its effect.
What im saying is we can't function without the good no matter how small, we have within all of us.
A broken system is best fixed with a pincer approach from within and without. You need to both change the internal culture and practices and excercise influence from beyond the confines of the system.
And when the game is rigged beyond all fixing (it never is), even then it is a moral person’s duty to act in benefit of their community. Regardless of the tree’s rot, patches of flowers are patches of flowers, and ought be appreciated.
I think an internal approach is useless. Humans are not the same. Everyone does their own thing, despite whatever the majority culture is. Even though humans are all unique, this doesn’t actually result in random, unpredictable behavior.
Rather it’s the opposite. There are so many of us that our most common instincts prevail in the face of sheer numbers. If you don’t understand what I mean, then think about it like this: when you flip a coin, the side the lands face up is random, right? Even though it’s a 50/50 chance, you’ll never be able to tell with certainty what the outcome is going to be. But, if you flip the same coin many times, a pattern emerges - the 50% odds that we’re familiar with. It’s an intrinsic property contained within the very nature of a coin flip. Humans are the same way.
We can overcome our natural instincts, and we can even be virtuous and beautiful beings, transcending our base desires, but these are exceptions. Eight billion is an incomprehensibly large number. It doesn’t matter if 10 million humans are able to adhere to a morally righteous culture. The rest will ruin it by breaking the contract, a contract that only works if everyone follows it, a contract that is simply impossible to enforce on that scale.
It doesn’t even have to be true that these remaining people are “evil” or “bad” or “tainted” or “selfish” or whatever label you want to paint them as. Everyone is different, and in fact we may even think of many of these people as “good”, but a vast number of people will possess some level of base desire, and a lot will act on it in some way. These little things do not mean much on their own, but in the face of billions of people it is impossible for anything to completely oppose it.
Just as there are countless molecules in a wave all working together to tirelessly shave the cliff’s face away, so does the random human animalistic instinct overpower everything. It is futile to fight it in hopes of changing the human race for the better. Against magnitude, all crumbles.
The only way to make real change is to work with human tendencies than against them. This is why currency works. Money leverages our desires to own resources, at the cost of the downtrodden and unlucky. It is a creation arisen from our greatest evils, but one of our most beneficial.
Greed. Pride. Lust. Envy. Gluttony. Wrath. Sloth.
These are not only sins to be scorned. They are sins we must acknowledge and accept as an irrefutable part of mankind as a whole and something that we may never truly rid of ourselves from, lest we become a different species. No, instead we must utilize these for ourselves with systems that punish excessive behavior but satisfy these dark desires. Economy hurts those who spend too much, and it hurts those that spend too little, who waste their rewards without ever being able to use them. In this manner, we should come up with other methods for our collective innate desires, and after we will be able to gain from our flaws rather than turn our noses up at them.
When every option is compromised, what do we owe each other?
Idk man, I just know I really had fun watching you suffer through that game
Dying because the chair was too uncomfortable was certainly a weird experience.
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What this mean?
I tried to explain it 2 times already and got censored
basically, in the game Disco Elysium you can find a chair, sit in this chair on the right conditions and you have to heal yourself in any way or you will away.
We only we have hearts when they are broken.
Nuh uh
Oh, did someone break you heart? Im sorry.
Hope you get better, It always does
I'm fine, I think everyone had their heart broken at some point at their lifes. I was thinking about that.
Wow, it must've been tough. I'm glad you came out okay.
Attack the heart..
Before it attacks you.
Kanye once said “You never know what you’ve got till it’s gone.”
Taking something for granted, like it’ll always be there.
bitch so did i
nuh uh
Yesir
I've seen idiots believe in such lies that they have no words but that which has been said before them. I don't wish for my older sis to be one but she's been out the lectures and classes that she believes in she thinks she is. I hope for your sky to be clear and the sun to be cool that you find your path even if iit's the red road. I miss you sis
You put your right foot in,
I don’t think that’s what it’s all about
You put your left foot in,
You take your left foot out;
You put your left foot in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!
There’s more. They’re hiding it from us
That's what it's all about!
before you can love another, you must love yourself.
-some random sparring partner
Low key, I don’t think this is true. I’d say it’s easier to love someone else if you think less of yourself (think of a yandere situation). Instead, when you love yourself, you can love others on a deeper level.
Can confirm
Very true, thats why I can't hold a relationship anymore
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Very true.
Life be like lately on some real shit😔
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Did this guy just fart fire?
Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.
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So I saw a Reddit post last week about Ursula K legion’s “the ones who walk away from Omelas” and it fucking sucked (the Reddit comments). If you’ve read the story before, what’s your take on it?
Imma be real, I am attempting, badly, to convert you all to the love of god. Figured I might as well spread love to those who get hate, help those who need it, idk. But for real, where are you at/ what do you think about religion? As an idea, as a proof of concept, whatever. Just curiosity. And wanting to know how much effort I will need for this.
Feel free to ignore my dips*** crusade and just answer it as a philosophical question. But He loves you, and I think you are some of the best to learn that. He was a god who broke bread with tax collectors and sinners. He came for those that need the help but don't want it. Just trying to, in a way I think I can do, spread love.
God created us just to have something to watch while gooning. All He does is masturbate and kill us when we get boring.
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I think you might be too thin-skinned to post about God on a porn forum.
Not thin skinned, just had a bad day and that was the first response I got, and therefore saw. I didn't mean to overreact, if I even did.
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"I hold no gods, I make no prayer,
My mind is still, my heart is bare,
I do not yearn for warm embrace,
The soul is not a circuit trace."
- some computer program
If slavery is so bad, how else am I suppose to get cheap enchants and emeralds en masse?
Checkmate, Lincolnites!
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